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post Jun 4 2008, 06:54 PM
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hello;
i get a problème again .

well, this is my work (with keithley6487)

1*i have a circuit with a resistance and a diode
2*inject a tension sin with GBF on input(diode) (1)
3*receive a signal from the output (2)
4*but my program show me in the graphe this (3)
5* i receive a signal with the buffer read command (TRAC:DATA?)
6* i make a 200 reading and size of buffer 200

i want to now where is the problem why i had not like signal (2)? help me please


(1), (2) and (3) are in the picture
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post Jun 5 2008, 11:12 AM
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any answer friends help me please frusty.gif .


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post Jun 7 2008, 07:46 PM
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but why i have not one answer her unsure.gif
please help me


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post Jun 8 2008, 10:27 AM
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I can answer why you haven't got an answer, but I can tell you how I do instruments at our site biggrin.gif

Have you tried to use VISA write/read, instead of this drivers?
To be honest i have never been able to get the drivers for our instrumet to work like I would like them to do.

So I write my own, just by using the protocol and VISA READ/Write. And some try and faild.
Then I have a vi after my own wish.

I hope this helps you

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post Jun 8 2008, 05:19 PM
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so, i wait a long time for a technical answer, and finaly i get this message? throwpc.gif

dear clio75 do you see a the attached file? and are you understand my first message(explaining for my program)?

this is my project for my end of study and this problem is a 10% from my total work, it's the only problem in this work.
And for your question i say: yes, the driver of the keithley6487 has a VI (read) and vi (writ) just like visa read visa write and i take this VIs of driver. So if you have a help , help me else i have not a time please ...


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post Jun 8 2008, 06:15 PM
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With so many insults in one reply I not sure I going to help you any more.
If you read my post. You will se I ment use the VISA READ/WRITE and NOT the F..... drivers you have to the F..... instrument.

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This is not a place you can demand an answer. We are ALL LW users helping each other the best we can.
If you need fast tek support call NI or you local dealer.

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post Jun 8 2008, 11:30 PM
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i am waiting a help please members he doesn't undertand
Clio please if you don't now what is mean a driver of instrument please download any driver from for example www.keithley.com and look his VIs, you will be find the write and the read.

but my problem is not on the writ and the read i now this functions; my problem is with a buffer ok? frusty.gif


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post Jun 9 2008, 08:44 AM
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QUOTE (zhpipo16 @ Jun 9 2008, 12:30 AM) *
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I don't have an answer, but I do have a request and a question:-

My request is that you tidy up the block diagram so that you have got all the wires going from left to right and not going backwards. You also need to make sure your wires don't disappear under the sides of the sequence structure. I request this so that we can understand your block diagram.

My question is... do you have a drawing of how you have the instrument connected to the resistor and diode, and what voltage sine wave you are applying? I ask this because the Keithly 6487 is an ammeter for measuring current, yet you seem to be trying to measure voltage with it, so I think I must be not understanding how you have it connected.


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post Jun 9 2008, 10:01 AM
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QUOTE (zhpipo16 @ Jun 4 2008, 08:54 PM) *
hello;
i get a problème again .

well, this is my work (with keithley6487)

1*i have a circuit with a resistance and a diode
2*inject a tension sin with GBF on input(diode) (1)
3*receive a signal from the output (2)
4*but my program show me in the graphe this (3)
5* i receive a signal with the buffer read command (TRAC:DATA?)
6* i make a 200 reading and size of buffer 200

i want to now where is the problem why i had not like signal (2)? help me please


(1), (2) and (3) are in the picture


First you really dont need a flat sequence spanning over the complete diagram. Second you really want a 50 second delay, from the final write to the first read? Third if you would start reading immidately after the last write, what whould get then?


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post Jun 10 2008, 10:18 PM
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QUOTE (Kevin Payne @ Jun 9 2008, 08:44 AM) *
I don't have an answer, but I do have a request and a question:-

My request is that you tidy up the block diagram so that you have got all the wires going from left to right and not going backwards. You also need to make sure your wires don't disappear under the sides of the sequence structure. I request this so that we can understand your block diagram.

My question is... do you have a drawing of how you have the instrument connected to the resistor and diode, and what voltage sine wave you are applying? I ask this because the Keithly 6487 is an ammeter for measuring current, yet you seem to be trying to measure voltage with it, so I think I must be not understanding how you have it connected.


hello;
yes Kevin i want to visualise a current.
1* i will apply e(t)=5sin(100t)
2* the voltage wille be sin v(t)=x*e(t)
3*the current i(t)=v(t)/R
so the currant have a same form of voltage ok?

and i conect a Keithley 6487 with a circuit serialy not parallèle, so i can make this?
and thank you


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post Jun 11 2008, 10:23 AM
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QUOTE (zhpipo16 @ Jun 10 2008, 11:18 PM) *
hello;
yes Kevin i want to visualise a current.
1* i will apply e(t)=5sin(100t)
2* the voltage wille be sin v(t)=x*e(t)
3*the current i(t)=v(t)/R
so the currant have a same form of voltage ok?

and i conect a Keithley 6487 with a circuit serialy not parallèle, so i can make this?
and thank you


I'll start by repeating my request that you post a tidied version of the block diagram, then I have more questions.

What frequency and amplitude is your input signal, and what sample rate are you measuring at? (I'm hoping you know about the Nyquist frequency). I'm looking for you to reply with numeric values rather than equations.


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Diodes only pass current in one direction (though there is a slight leakage current when they are reverse biased). And they also exhibit a voltage drop when forward biased, the drop depends on the semiconductor materials used in their construction (typically .3 to .7V).

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Another thing that would be usefull is either the data collected or a picture of the ACTUAL data, not a crayon depiction. What is the amplitude and time scale of the data for all three graphs? We cannot guess why it is not working if we also have to guess what it actually is doing. beer_mug.gif

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but i said e(t)=5sin(100t);
so Amplitide=5v
frequency wt=100 and f=2*3.14*w
but my programme will acquit from any e(t); and it's good (look my attached file in th firste msg) but my probleme is with the buffer when i apply "read"
and my friends this work should be finished this friday, so help me please sad.gif



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post Jun 12 2008, 10:11 AM
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QUOTE (zhpipo16 @ Jun 11 2008, 09:59 PM) *
but i said e(t)=5sin(100t);
so Amplitide=5v
frequency wt=100 and f=2*3.14*w
but my programme will acquit from any e(t); and it's good (look my attached file in th firste msg) but my probleme is with the buffer when i apply "read"
and my friends this work should be finished this friday, so help me please sad.gif


Sorry zhipppo16, but you're not giving us enough information - your original attatchments are missing too much. You need to re-read the replies and get the answers we've asked for, if you want help. Also putting comments on the block diagram explaining the reason for each of the commmands you've sent to the instrument would be a good idea.


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