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Mar 8 2007, 10:37 AM
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![]() Extremely Active Member Posts: 361 Joined: 6-February 07 From: Homburg/Germany Member No.: 7689 Using LabVIEW Since:2004 LV:8.5 ,8.0.1 ,.
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Hello,
I wonder why LabVIEW doesn't get acceptance by other programmer. The most of people are sceptic if I say LabVIEW is assimilable to other programming languages. I find LabVIEW is very great and makes some things easier. Why to drive bike if there are motorbike. Greetings, Eugen --------------------
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Mar 8 2007, 11:58 AM
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![]() Extremely Active Premium Member ![]() Posts: 323 Joined: 8-January 07 From: Geneva Member No.: 7452 Using LabVIEW Since:1999 LV:8.5.1 ,7.1.1 ,5.1
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Hello, I wonder why LabVIEW doesn't get acceptance by other programmer. The most of people are sceptic if I say LabVIEW is assimilable to other programming languages. I find LabVIEW is very great and makes some things easier. Why to drive bike if there are motorbike. Greetings, Eugen I totally agree with you Eugen, I often meet C/C++ "veterans" who've been doing more or less the same kind of project as I do and they concider that developing with LabVIEW is not really working... They say I'm doing nice drawings but not doing real professional job. Maybe LabVIEW is just too accessible/time saving for them, I once challenged them to start from scratch a small app and see who gets it done first. In the end they argued that I was not "controlling things deeply as much as they do". They pretend to be driving the Ferrarri (C/C++) against a New Beetle (LabVIEW). For those (like me) who have never been behind Ferrarri (I mean a real one) steering wheel, I can tell you it requires a very long and specific training just to be able to move of 1 cm, and driving in town... don't think about it, it's a nightmare ! And it takes no more than 5 minutes for a normal driver to get use to a New Beetle. -------------------- ____________________________________________________________________________________
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Mar 8 2007, 01:09 PM
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![]() Very Active Premium Member ![]() Posts: 179 Joined: 19-January 05 From: Switzerland Member No.: 1396 Using LabVIEW Since:1998 LV:8.20 ,8.0.1 ,7.1.1
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For those (like me) who have never been behind Ferrarri (I mean a real one) steering wheel, I can tell you it requires a very long and specific training just to be able to move of 1 cm, and driving in town... don't think about it, it's a nightmare ! And it takes no more than 5 minutes for a normal driver to get use to a New Beetle. I drove a Ferrari in our windtunnel, and you don't need that much time to learn... but you need a lot of time to earn... -------------------- ![]() Happy Wiring! (User defined "Swiss Wire Class" for neutral data only!!!)
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Mar 8 2007, 01:23 PM
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1 more post to go! Member Posts: 9 Joined: 5-October 06 From: Minnesota Member No.: 6409 Using LabVIEW Since:2005 LV:8.20 ,8.0.1 ,7.1.1
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Although I don't spend too much time wondering what other programmers think of me or the language I choose for developing in, I have encountered similar circumstances. People who work in C/C++ tend to have that disposition, Eugen. They are equally, if not more, critical of VB programmers. Their assertions are based on the idea that C/C++ requires you to build most aspects of your program from the 'ground up'. However, ask them what headers they use? Did they make the header or are they using something someone else did? Also, one of the great strengths of LabVIEW is that it is easy to make cross-platform applications. How often do they even attempt that in C/C++? When they do how much extra work is that?
There are definitely advantages to using C/C++ over LabVIEW. For example, the ability to make Win API calls that return STRUCT data types. LabVIEW will not always work with these data types (especially STRUCT data types that contain other STRUCT data types). However, the ease of development and handy tools to make development swift and reliable far exceed, in my opinion, other shortcomings.
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Mar 8 2007, 02:52 PM
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Hi,
my colleague always laughs at LabVIEW. He says that I'm just painting pictures similar to powerpoint foils. He prefers HP Basic where he is "close to the hardware". I'm glad that LabVIEW is close to the hardware so if have time to program the important things
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Apr 3 2007, 10:14 PM
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![]() Extremely Active Member Posts: 361 Joined: 6-February 07 From: Homburg/Germany Member No.: 7689 Using LabVIEW Since:2004 LV:8.5 ,8.0.1 ,.
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Here a interesting statistic about programming languages:
http://www.tiobe.com/index.htm?tiobe_index Eugen --------------------
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Apr 3 2007, 10:41 PM
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Changing the world, one VI at a time. JKI ![]() Posts: 1699 Joined: 22-October 02 From: San Francisco, CA Member No.: 17 Using LabVIEW Since:1995 LV:8.2.1 ,8.5 ,7.1.1
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Here a interesting statistic about programming languages: http://www.tiobe.com/index.htm?tiobe_index Eugen Wow! LabView [sic] is #34 -- very cool! --------------------
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Apr 4 2007, 05:14 AM
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![]() Confucius say: Crowded elevator always smell different to midget Admin ![]() Posts: 2367 Joined: 13-October 02 From: Planet Earth Member No.: 2 Using LabVIEW Since:1994 LV:8.5 ,8.2.1 ,7.1.1
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At least LabVIEW beat ABC, Boo, MAD and Groovy!
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Apr 10 2007, 09:42 PM
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More Active NI ![]() Posts: 46 Joined: 30-June 03 From: Austin, TX Member No.: 131 Using LabVIEW Since:1999 LV:5.1 ,. ,.
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They pretend to be driving the Ferrarri (C/C++) against a New Beetle (LabVIEW). Sometimes looks can be deceiving. I feel sorry for the ferarri driver who pulls up beside this New Beetle at a stoplight: http://hpamotorsports.com/projects_finished_cannonbeetle.htm http://www.motortrend.com/features/perform...kswagen_beetle/ J
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Apr 11 2007, 01:49 AM
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![]() Very Active NI ![]() Posts: 66 Joined: 19-January 07 From: Austin, TX Member No.: 7544 Using LabVIEW Since:1999 LV:8.20 ,8.0.1 ,7.1.1
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I feel sorry for the ferarri driver who pulls up beside this New Beetle at a stoplight: http://hpamotorsports.com/projects_finished_cannonbeetle.htm http://www.motortrend.com/features/perform...kswagen_beetle/ Not to mention this one: http://www.techeblog.com/index.php/tech-ga...wered-vw-beetle Herbert
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Apr 13 2007, 06:57 AM
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Extremely Active Member Posts: 391 Joined: 6-February 04 From: switzerland Member No.: 253 Using LabVIEW Since:1997 LV:7.1.1 ,6.1 ,.
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They pretend to be driving the Ferrarri (C/C++) against a New Beetle (LabVIEW). In this sentense there are 2 point in favour of Labview: 1. the New Beetle is affordable by the masses 2. I doubt that one could drive the ferrarri with less gaz as the beetle.
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Jun 12 2007, 09:17 AM
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<customize this text> Premium Member ![]() Posts: 1012 Joined: 9-April 04 From: Rotterdam Member No.: 349 Using LabVIEW Since:1992 LV:8.5.1 ,8.2.1 ,7.1.1
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Hi, my colleague always laughs at LabVIEW. He says that I'm just painting pictures similar to powerpoint foils. He prefers HP Basic where he is "close to the hardware". I'm glad that LabVIEW is close to the hardware so if have time to program the important things Ouch! HP Basic! I thought that is dead for a long time. I have never been a fan of any Basic, but HP Basic was definitely not the best one I've seen. Rolf Kalbermatter
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Jun 12 2007, 12:10 PM
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Instant Human, just add coffee Premium Member ![]() Posts: 889 Joined: 31-January 03 From: Waterford, CT USA Member No.: 45 Using LabVIEW Since:1992 LV:8.2.1 ,7.1 ,8.0.1
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I have never been a fan of any Basic, ... I used basic on my first engineering project out of school, then was considering VB for then next when LabVIEW 2.5.2 came out on Windoze and I never looked back. Since then when I've used text based languages it has usually been only to provide some optimized code for LabVIEW to call (with one or two exceptions). But HP Basic and Rocky Mountain Basic have been great friends of mine over the past 15 years, mainly by providing fertile ground for consulting projects to replace them with LabVIEW versions of the same application -------------------- ************************************************************* "Always listen to the experts, they'll tell you what can't be done, and why. Then go do it." ~The Notebooks of Lazarus Long (by Robert Heinlein) *************************************************************
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Jun 12 2007, 01:02 PM
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