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Nov 21 2007, 07:59 PM
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Very Active Member Posts: 101 Joined: 26-January 07 From: Seattle, WA Member No.: 7603 Using LabVIEW Since:2006 LV:8.20 ,. ,.
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As I've been working with Labview for the past year and a half I've noticed there are several trivial tasks I am *constantly* doing that don't matter much individually, but when taken as a whole become annoyances. For most vi's I write 98% of my time is spent on the block diagram. The following suggestions would go a long way towards lowering my irritation factor:
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Nov 21 2007, 08:13 PM
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![]() Confucius say, Man with tight trousers is pressing his luck. Admin ![]() Posts: 2320 Joined: 13-October 02 From: Planet Earth Member No.: 2 Using LabVIEW Since:1994 LV:8.5 ,8.2.1 ,7.1.1
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I agree with all of your comments. I can help with #2. You should read the tips and tricks wiki page.
http://wiki.lavag.org/Tips_and_tricks#Stri...ht_while_typing So, shift+enter works. -------------------- Tags
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Nov 21 2007, 09:34 PM
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Very Active Member Posts: 101 Joined: 26-January 07 From: Seattle, WA Member No.: 7603 Using LabVIEW Since:2006 LV:8.20 ,. ,.
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Shift-Enter works for string constants but not for free text labels which is where I would like to see it. I suppose I could comment my code with string constants but that seems so... wrong.
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Nov 21 2007, 09:49 PM
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Shift-Enter works for string constants but not for free text labels which is where I would like to see it. I suppose I could comment my code with string constants but that seems so... wrong. -------------------- Tags
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Nov 21 2007, 09:53 PM
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![]() Extwemely Active Premium Member ![]() Posts: 1594 Joined: 23-January 05 From: Here Member No.: 1431 Using LabVIEW Since:2003 LV:7.0 ,7.1 ,.
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Some of these points already have possible solutions you can implement yourself or answers:
Block diagram zooming. Not that it helps that much, but LabVIEW has the zoom window which displays an image of your entire diagram and allows you to pan it. Not as nice as a zoom, but it works. QUOTE Integrated Development Environment. This is another request I made to the NI rep. He had an answer that sounded reasonable but I forgot what it is. Are you refering to this? QUOTE Front panel auto-home You can write a simple VI which will be accessible through the Tools or File menu and will set the Origin property on the VI you call it from to [0,0]. To do this, you need to put the VI in the LabVIEW\Project folder and then use a specific property. You can see in example here. -------------------- More than meets the eye...
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Nov 21 2007, 10:09 PM
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Nov 21 2007, 11:27 PM
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Are you refering to this? I remeber seeing a mock-up of this years and years ago, and I've got to admit that I was pretty excited by it. I can understand Stephen's comments, but I wonder if it can be revisited? -------------------- ![]() Tags
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Nov 22 2007, 07:35 AM
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3. Working in the block diagram I'm baffled as to why there aren't controls and indicators in the funtion pallette. All the time I'm dragging constants onto the block diagram and then right-clicking to change them to a control or indicator. Why not use modifier keys to change the object being placed on the BD? For instance, if I hold Ctl down while dragging a boolean constant onto the block diagram it would drop a boolean control rather than a boolean constant. Holding down Shift could drop a boolean indicator 4. Zooming[...] For 3 you could quite easily (with scripting and the .mnu toolkit) create merge VIs that would contain the items you need. About 4, as Yen mentioned there's the overview, but that is a navigation window, what did you want to do in a 10 times zoomed window for programming, please enlighten me since I don't see the point. Ton -------------------- Tags
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Nov 22 2007, 05:34 PM
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For 3 you could quite easily (with scripting and the .mnu toolkit) create merge VIs that would contain the items you need. I knew I forgot something. I was thinking of merge VIs as well, but for the issue raised in item 1 (styled loops). -------------------- More than meets the eye...
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Nov 23 2007, 03:08 AM
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![]() Active Member Posts: 19 Joined: 10-November 07 From: Jinju, South Korea Member No.: 9835 Using LabVIEW Since:2006 LV:8.5 ,8.2.1 ,8.20
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"We don't want people to create block diagrams more than one screen size." I agree with you, zooming would be better. It's painful by dragging the slider right and bottom, also by using navigation window, we still have to click on that small window, a shortcut would be better! For writing comment I usually did shift+right click, and choose the Text icon (I think this is a standard one), why do you need string constant? Also the front panel, sometimes in the Back Panel I create a ctrl or indicator, then when I switch to FP, I have to -again- drag the slider to find the control/indicator which has been created And another one, for XP user maybe you can consider of installing a free add-on from Windows, Powertoy the alt-tab replacement, you can click on the small-screen when you are switching window using alt-tab. Bondhan ~Another Certified LabView Newbie -------------------- Tags
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Nov 23 2007, 03:21 AM
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Extremely Active Member Posts: 541 Joined: 13-September 05 From: Cary, NC USA Member No.: 2992 Using LabVIEW Since:1997 LV:8.5 ,8.2.1 ,7.1.1
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I agree with you, zooming would be better. It's painful by dragging the slider right and bottom, I do almost all my scrolling by using the draggy-hand-tool (does it have a real name?). I mean the thing you get by doing shift-right-click, then selecting the draggy-hand (as distinct from the pointy-hand). Then you can click+drag to scroll the diagram (or front panel) around. It saves trips back & forth to the scroll bars, and is a pretty easy dance to perform once you get used to it. I do wish there was a slightly easier way to activate it (like ctrl+shift+drag or something). EDIT: Here's what I mean:
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Nov 23 2007, 06:32 AM
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Extremely Active Premium Member ![]() Posts: 430 Joined: 2-February 05 From: Southern California Member No.: 1519 Using LabVIEW Since:2004 LV:8.20 ,7.1.1 ,8.0.1
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I do almost all my scrolling by using the draggy-hand-tool (does it have a real name?). I mean the thing you get by doing shift-right-click, then selecting the draggy-hand (as distinct from the pointy-hand). Then you can click+drag to scroll the diagram (or front panel) around. It saves trips back & forth to the scroll bars, and is a pretty easy dance to perform once you get used to it. I do wish there was a slightly easier way to activate it (like ctrl+shift+drag or something). The "draggy-tool" (is it the 'Pan' tool perhaps?) can be invoked by ctrl+shift+drag if you have the auto-tool on. Tags
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Nov 23 2007, 12:35 PM
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The "draggy-tool" (is it the 'Pan' tool perhaps?) can be invoked by ctrl+shift+drag if you have the auto-tool on. And creating a comment is as easy as double clicking an empty part of the diagram and typing. That's two points in favor of the auto-tool which are not immediately apparent. P.S. Yes, I would agree that it's called "Pan". -------------------- More than meets the eye...
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