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post Jul 7 2007, 07:08 PM
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This is the discussion topic for the wiki article: LVOOP


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My understanding is that NI uses the abbreviation LabVOOP and not LVOOP. I'd prefer the official abbreviation.

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QUOTE (Tomi Maila @ Jul 7 2007, 01:37 PM) *
My understanding is that NI uses the abbreviation LabVOOP and not LVOOP. I'd prefer the official abbreviation.
As far as I know, it's written as LVOOP. Even in this document. Can you give an example where NI uses labvoop?

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QUOTE (Michael_Aivaliotis @ Jul 8 2007, 01:01 AM) *
As far as I know, it's written as LVOOP. Even in this document. Can you give an example where NI uses labvoop?

I think Stephen Mercer once said that it's LabVOOP and not LVOOP. LabVOOP Design Patterns document suggest the LabVOOP name. Perhaps we should ask Aristos Queue, I hope he notices this discussion...

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QUOTE (Michael_Aivaliotis @ Jul 7 2007, 05:01 PM) *
As far as I know, it's written as LVOOP. Even in this document. Can you give an example where NI uses labvoop?


I prefer LabVOOP. NI uses LVOOP on all docs posted to ni.com. I personally want this changed to LabVOOP. I'll take any help I can get, such as LAVA using LabVOOP in all references. Why my preference? Frankly, LabVOOP is pronouncable.

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QUOTE (Aristos Queue @ Jul 9 2007, 11:31 PM) *
Why my preference? Frankly, LabVOOP is pronouncable.

Not cleanly if you've got a mouthful of crackers...

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QUOTE (crelf @ Jul 9 2007, 08:54 AM) *
Not cleanly if you've got a mouthful of crackers...

But then, most things aren't pronouncable cleanly when you have a mouth full of crackers. The exception being "I have a mouth full of crackers" which is correctly pronounced only when true. ;-)

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QUOTE (Aristos Queue @ Jul 10 2007, 12:28 AM) *
But then, most things aren't pronouncable cleanly when you have a mouth full of crackers. The exception being "I have a mouth full of crackers" which is correctly pronounced only when true. ;-)

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post Jul 12 2007, 01:53 AM
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QUOTE (Aristos Queue @ Jul 9 2007, 07:28 AM) *
But then, most things aren't pronouncable cleanly when you have a mouth full of crackers. The exception being "I have a mouth full of crackers" which is correctly pronounced only when true. ;-)


While pronounciation might be possible with a mouthful of cracker, pronunciation would undoubtredly be a bit compromised. But, then again, I'm an OED kind of guy.

What about OOPinG?

In one pronunciation it would be a single word -- "OOPinG" a la looping".
In another it could be almost three -- OOP in G, meaning "Object Oriented Programming In G"

Of course this shouldn't but confused with OOPSinG.... ;-)

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QUOTE (Val Brown @ Jul 12 2007, 11:53 AM) *
What about OOPinG?

biggrin.gif I think that will be pretty quickly confused with OpenG, especially when you add the Canadian accent, eh? wink.gif

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QUOTE (crelf @ Jul 12 2007, 05:27 AM) *
biggrin.gif I think that will be pretty quickly confused with OpenG, especially when you add the Canadian accent, eh? wink.gif


I doubt that myself but I only live in Canada (now). I was originally born and lived in Washington, DC, then Pittsburgh, PA, then Long Island, NY.

I especially think the "OOP in G" pronunciation is quite good and exact -- the idea is that the implementation of OOP is done in the G Language.

Of course, one could do sort of reverse sort and excise on that idea and use instead:

GiOOP

For G implementing OOP. That would sound like "Gee -- OOP" and that might have a bit of panache.

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QUOTE (Val Brown @ Jul 14 2007, 01:21 PM) *
...that would sound like "Gee -- OOP" and that might have a bit of panache.

Sounds like the beginnings of a Monty Python sketch: We are the Knights that go "GeeeeeeeeeOOP"! smile.gif The only problem is the "G" part - "G" is really only a term used informally int he community at large as it's a trademark of a company other than NI (I can't remember who right now), so NI has pretty much abandoned using the term.

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QUOTE (crelf @ Jul 13 2007, 08:42 PM) *
Sounds like the beginnings of a Monty Python sketch: We are the Knights that go "GeeeeeeeeeOOP"! smile.gif The only problem is the "G" part - "G" is really only a term used informally int he community at large as it's a trademark of a company other than NI (I can't remember who right now), so NI has pretty much abandoned using the term.



Yes, well a lot of this can sound like a Monty Python routine... ;-)

OK, so how about: BROOL (rhymes with pool)

Meaning:

By Reference Object Oriented LabVIEW.

or even: BROOPiL (sounds Brew Pull)

By Refence Object Oriented Programming in LabVIEW

Of course, the second choice also describes the behavior of many after working with LabVIEW so perhaps there's some "symmetry" to that...

Isn't the real issue with the NI implementation that it isn't "really" by reference but by value? Of course, in saying this I'm taking the other threads at face value and not referencing them but I hope the point is still clear.

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QUOTE (crelf @ Jul 14 2007, 06:42 AM) *
"G" is really only a term used informally int he community at large as it's a trademark of a company other than NI (I can't remember who right now)

PBS? (Sesame Street is brought to you by the letter G) rolleyes.gif

QUOTE (Val Brown @ Jul 14 2007, 09:28 PM) *
OK, so how about: BROOL (rhymes with pool)

or even: BROOPiL (sounds Brew Pull)

Maybe BUGGER?
(Chris, I will leave it to you to come up with suitable words for that acronym). blink.gif

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