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Jun 17 2008, 12:26 AM
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Changing the world, one VI at a time. Premium Member ![]() Posts: 1665 Joined: 22-October 02 From: San Francisco, CA Member No.: 17 Using LabVIEW Since:1995 LV:8.2.1 ,8.5 ,7.1.1
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Hi All, I've written another article (actually a rant) about customizing the LabVIEW palettes. I hope you find it useful. As usual, your thoughts, feedback, and stories of your related experiences are most welcome Thanks, -Jim -------------------- Tags
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Jun 17 2008, 06:24 PM
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Extremely Active Member Posts: 254 Joined: 30-December 05 Member No.: 3786 Using LabVIEW Since:1998 LV:8.5 ,8.20 ,7.1
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<rant of my own> Thanks again, Jime for speaking up for a lot of us. The palette structures and disease-of-use to customize them are one of the few (if any) issues I would consider user-hostile in the entire LabVIEW enviroment. And to add to our frustration, every time NI comes up with a new version it creates a brand new default palette always loaded with nothing but express vi's (???) and other useless garbage. Then you have to go through the headache to cusomize them all over again.
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Jun 17 2008, 06:41 PM
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Jun 17 2008, 07:27 PM
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I really dislike the palettes too...especially since everything was rearranged in 8.0. If only someone could do something about them! I mean, if somebody with my distaste for the palettes happened to work in LabVIEW R&D, then he could add a feature in the next LabVIEW release that allowed me to write VIs faster than ever before, without having to ever bring up the palettes again. Man, that would be so great! Oh well, maybe someday. Someday...
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Jun 17 2008, 07:42 PM
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Changing the world, one VI at a time. Premium Member ![]() Posts: 1665 Joined: 22-October 02 From: San Francisco, CA Member No.: 17 Using LabVIEW Since:1995 LV:8.2.1 ,8.5 ,7.1.1
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<rant of my own> Thanks again, Jime for speaking up for a lot of us. The palette structures and disease-of-use to customize them are one of the few (if any) issues I would consider user-hostile in the entire LabVIEW enviroment. And to add to our frustration, every time NI comes up with a new version it creates a brand new default palette always loaded with nothing but express vi's (???) and other useless garbage. Then you have to go through the headache to cusomize them all over again. So true. I was thinking the same thing. I'm going to have to add that to my collection. I really dislike the palettes too...especially since everything was rearranged in 8.0. If only someone could do something about them! I mean, if somebody with my distaste for the palettes happened to work in LabVIEW R&D, then he could add a feature in the next LabVIEW release that allowed me to write VIs faster than ever before, without having to ever bring up the palettes again. Man, that would be so great! Oh well, maybe someday. Someday... Yes, I think that a hypothetical tool that obviates the need for palettes in many situations would be a huge useability step forward What I want is for LabVIEW to know which function I'm thinking about and to put it on my tooltip so that I can drop it. Is that what you're thinking of, too? -------------------- Tags
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Jun 17 2008, 08:57 PM
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Extremely Active Member Posts: 541 Joined: 13-September 05 From: Cary, NC USA Member No.: 2992 Using LabVIEW Since:1997 LV:8.5 ,8.2.1 ,7.1.1
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What I want is for LabVIEW to know which function I'm thinking about and to put it on my tooltip so that I can drop it. Is that what you're thinking of, too? How about a Markov-chain based system that would look at the node your tool is currently pointing at and analyze a handful of nodes leading to it to determine the most historically likely function? It's in my brain because I've been playing with Garkov -------------------- If you don't like this post, you might also not like my widgets!
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Jun 17 2008, 09:25 PM
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Changing the world, one VI at a time. Premium Member ![]() Posts: 1665 Joined: 22-October 02 From: San Francisco, CA Member No.: 17 Using LabVIEW Since:1995 LV:8.2.1 ,8.5 ,7.1.1
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How about a Markov-chain based system that would look at the node your tool is currently pointing at and analyze a handful of nodes leading to it to determine the most historically likely function? It's in my brain because I've been playing with Garkov Could we use that as a refactoring tool to create reusable VIs? It could analyze the patterns in your code and identify frequently used snippits that should be made into subVIs. -------------------- Tags
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Jun 17 2008, 09:28 PM
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Could we use that as a refactoring tool to create reusable VIs? It could analyze the patterns in your code and identify frequently used snippits that should be made into subVIs. Careful what you ask for, guys. LabVIEW 20.4 will be sentient and after your jobs. :-)
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Jun 17 2008, 09:35 PM
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Very Active NI ![]() Posts: 207 Joined: 14-March 06 From: Austin, TX Member No.: 4441 Using LabVIEW Since:1999 LV:8.6 ,8.5 ,8.0
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Careful what you ask for, guys. LabVIEW 20.4 will be sentient and after your jobs. :-) Yup, and as many of you may recall, LabVIEW 4.20 was after your munchies... -D Tags
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Jun 17 2008, 09:52 PM
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Changing the world, one VI at a time. Premium Member ![]() Posts: 1665 Joined: 22-October 02 From: San Francisco, CA Member No.: 17 Using LabVIEW Since:1995 LV:8.2.1 ,8.5 ,7.1.1
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Yup, and as many of you may recall, LabVIEW 4.20 was after your munchies... You wacky Austin hippies. (I'm just a couple miles from Haight-Ashbury, myself.) -------------------- Tags
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Jun 18 2008, 05:07 PM
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...he could add a feature in the next LabVIEW release that allowed me to write VIs faster than ever before, without having to ever bring up the palettes again. And if someone was free from worrying about long release cycles and didn't care about polishing it, he could have been using such a feature for months -------------------- More than meets the eye...
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